Baritone or 7 string?

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Baritone or 7 string?

Postby Brian Evans » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:15 am

I'm pondering my next project. I want to continue to explore the bass response that I got with my last archtop, with the sound hole in the upper bout and side a-la Ken Parker's instruments. I'm thinking a 27.5" or 28" scale baritone, tuned A-A, or a 7 string 25" or 25.5" scale with a low A string, upper six strings tuned E-E. What would you choose?

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Re: Baritone or 7 string?

Postby Eldon Howe » Sun Sep 16, 2018 3:36 pm

Just finished my 27 ½” scale, 8 string baritone (8 string like Taylors tuned B to B) so it fits in a standard case.
It is in the parker-sh style and has a laminated 1mm cherry/linen cloth top.
This top was my first test molded top in the vacuum bag.
It looked good so I thought I would use it on the baritone.
I’m not happy with the sound, not very loud and a bit tinny.
It does have the baritone sound I’m used to, just a bit tinny.
The sides are 2 and ¾” and has a ¾” arch both top and back. I was thinking this might provide enough air for the bass response.
The sound hole can be made larger on this guitar.
Future thoughts would be to increase the sides to 3” or use a taller arch with a shallower bridge.
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Re: Baritone or 7 string?

Postby Freeman Keller » Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:45 am

Eldon, I'm curious what strings you are using on your bari and if you are satisfied with the tension. And Brian, if you go with 28 inches what strings will you use?
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Re: Baritone or 7 string?

Postby Brian Evans » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:06 pm

Freeman, I would just use a set of baritone strings, probably. I haven't spent any more time thinking about this project, I'm kind of avoiding guitars right now (I go through phases). My buddy just asked me to make him a black cherry P-bass, left handed, so if he comes up with the wood I'll probably do that.
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Re: Baritone or 7 string?

Postby Eldon Howe » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:53 pm

.016 - .070 Elxer . these are designed for the Taylor Baritone 8. Tension is less than Taylors I think. It has been a while sense I played one.
This guitar and my previous one has a free zero fret with only enough down pressure to keep the strings from buzzing on the zero fret. Bends are softer on the fingers, because the strings will slide along the zero fret, as there is no nut at the zero fret.
I think more down pressure at the bridge would help with the volume.
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Re: Baritone or 7 string?

Postby Brian Evans » Sun Sep 23, 2018 2:40 pm

I did some experiments, not very scientific, to see what happened with variable down pressure at the bridge. I found that sound volume stayed the same from 4 degrees - barely kept on the bridge (realistically would probably move with a hard player) to around 18 degrees or around 50 lbs of down pressure, and above that (I went to around 22 degrees, actually started there and went backwards) with around 55 - 60 lbs of down pressure, where the volume dropped noticably and the sound became very muted. My conclusion was about any amount of down pressure that keeps the strings on the bridge is fine, more doesn't add anything tone/volume wise, more is bad for the instrument in other ways, and too much is too much. Others have said the same basic idea.
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