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remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:08 pm
by Brian Evans
If one has a guitar with an acrylic lacquer finish that has been waxed with carnauba type wax, how would you remove the wax without damaging the finish?

Thanks, Brian

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:39 pm
by David King
I suspect naptha is the go-to here.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:57 pm
by Brian Evans
Naptha is a mineral spirit that isn't actually available under that name in Canada. I suspect that it's the same thing as Coleman camp fuel - Ie an old fashioned camping stove fuel. What do you think? The common mineral spirits here are generic paint thinner, lacquer thinner and varsol. Paint thinner is awful smelly stuff, varsol is very oily and I am afraid lacquer thinner will damage the lacquer.

Brian

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2016 4:27 pm
by Joshua Levin-Epstein
If you can't buy naptha, buy lighter fluid (Ronson, Zippo etc). Its the same stuff but more expensive.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 3:16 pm
by David King
Low-odor mineral spirits may also be available. Model shops might still sell the tiny bottles of Testor's enamel and that thinner seems to work but I'd definitely test it first. Perhaps the auto parts stores now have a low-tox wax remover.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2016 5:07 pm
by Bob Gramann
Ammonia in the wash water moves wax pretty handily from an automobile. A spray and a wipe with Windex might do it for the lacquer. I have used Windex before to clean guitar finishes with no ill effects. Just don't leave it on the surface too long.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:22 am
by Clay Schaeffer
Paint thinner is a bit more oily and slower drying than naphtha but a close cousin, and will remove wax. Mohawk makes "wax wash" which is essentially naphtha in a spray can (with a little bit of toluene) that is fairly low odor. It is made for "touch up" furniture techs for use in customer's homes to prep furniture for repair work. They do have Canadian distributors.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:41 am
by Todd Stock
My Canadian friend says that it is sold as 'Camping Fuel' by Rona in US gallon and US quart sizes - the can should be labeled as '100% Naphtha Petroleum Distillate' and will have the following item and part numbers: Article #0263201 Model #14-434. Recochem Branded.

Some Home Depots in Canada apparently have it as well, and labeled the same way. While Coleman brand stove fuel is mostly naphtha (aka white gas when we were kids), it also has rust inhibitors and other additives...to be avoided if you can get the pure stuff.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 1:58 pm
by Mark Fogleman
Joshua Levin-Epstein wrote:If you can't buy naptha, buy lighter fluid (Ronson, Zippo etc). Its the same stuff but more expensive.

I thought Ronson lighter fluid no longer has Naptha?

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 2:37 pm
by Barry Daniels
The MSDS says it contains light petroleum distillates which is sort of the same thing as naphtha. Keep in mind that nomenclature for petroleum based compounds is fairly squishy. For example: naphtha is not a single chemical but a family of similar compounds.

I read on another forum that the real purpose behind the recent changes in Ronson lighter fluid was to remove benzene from the mixture, which makes a lot of economic sense.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 6:19 pm
by Clay Schaeffer
"I read on another forum that the real purpose behind the recent changes in Ronson lighter fluid was to remove benzene from the mixture, which makes a lot of economic sense."


Which is not to be confused with benzine, which is sometimes used as another name for naphtha. :roll:

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2016 10:45 am
by Barry Daniels
See what I mean. Squishy.

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:35 am
by Mario Kessels
I have been breaking my head finding Naphtha in Holland, till iI found out that the Motip degreaser I have been using for years is Naphta. so there you go, available everywhere I would think.
It just has some 2 propanol added to it, anywhere from 0 to 20 percent.
Grz Mario

Re: remove wax from lacquer finish

PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:23 am
by Charles Wheeler
Good ideas. Anything more on it we can get?