L-00 from Grellier's plans

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Bob Howell
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L-00 from Grellier's plans

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I followed the discussion on the plans Eric started last spring and printed them out. Choose the L-00 for some reason.
Moved the sound hole and x bracing up 1/2" to accomidate sh placement on sound board. Later saw series of YouTube videos on bracing and learned that might be a big change.

I used tendilions construction, as I enjoy it. Worked smoothly.

Then carved off the overhang.

Macacauba and curly Sitka spruce.
This is my 3rd build.
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Looking good. I love the L-00 shape. Keep updating with your progress so we can see it all finished!
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I believe you mean "tentallones".

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Thanks for spelling. Here is sound hole and top.

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that is looking nice!

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Hi Bob, I built a L00 from the Grellier plans about 5 years ago. I live it. Yours is looking great. please keep posting your progress.

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I've installed the bindings and perfling. I made them both and cut off with 1/16" Cerf table saw blade
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Looking good, nice progress. It is hard to tell form the picture, what kind of top purfling are you using?
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I made one from a bunch of maple sliced off about 1/16-1/8 and various shades of brown, walnut, canary wood, santos rose wood and cherry veneer. Repeat every 2". Sliced off 1/32" with bs and glued up between VERY thin mahogany veneer, dyed black. Square, not angled. Worked out to be 5/64" wide. I have done several of these and am amazed what I can do successfully.

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Here are some of the perfling and materials I used to make them
Next sound board is shown. Another l-00.
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Looking good! That back and side wood is going to be beautiful under finish. Please give some closeups of your rosette and binding/perf scheme.

Back to your original post: why was it you shifted the soundhole and bracing? Will you do the same on the next, or follow the plans directly?
-Ruining perfectly good wood, one day at a time.

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This is looking really nice and is inspiring me to get back on my OM. I stopped working on it during the school year as this is a hard one for me. The good news is I will be retiring in May. I’m looking forward to my new life with more shop time.

Thanks,

-Eric

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Here are more pictures. The bindings are cherry and neck will be also. The rosette is Cherry, maple, walnut, manzetta burls with holly, cherry, and black veneer mixed in. I went for random arrangement rather than symmetry.
Back strip is More of same sandwich cut 1/8" thick with cocobolo block and same veneers. Lots of cleanup remaining. Several binding repairs to make. Used HHG and have little model airplane covering iron to heat and fix.
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I had installed the rosette located according to another set of plans, but when I traced out the location of the bracing I realized the sound hole must be 1/2" closer to neck. I think I moved the x brace 1/4" also and made it a 90 degree joint. Saw a youtube short that said that moving x brace 1/2" is BIG deal??? I don't know.

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Wow. She's going to become really pretty.

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I like that back strap!

Moving the X or changing the angel can be a big deal inasmuch as it will alter the tone, but it will still sound like a guitar (just a different guitar than it would if you hadn't made the change). As long as the lower legs of the X catch the bridge, you should be fine structurally. You'll have to make some more guitars before you can start to know how bracing changes will shape your tone.
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Two shots of another L-00; this one all curly maple and Sitka. I have collected a lot of figured maple over the years and last week I cut out 5-6 sets and have more to go.

This one will be naturel white. Seems a lot of trouble to dye back and /or sides without the perfling. In the past I have used tung oil thinned down to bring out the grain with out darkening maple. Now I'm wondering if wipe-on Polly from Minwax will work as well. Save buying another can.

What string weight are good with this design? The top is 3/32" most places but drops down to almost 1/16" in two places at the lower bout bottom edge.

Note the back stripe of blood wood and black/white. Saw this on Hanns Binurip's site and adapted it. He mentions old "Larson" model as his inspiration. I plan to use it in perfling also.

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I slaughtered Haans name; its Haans Brentrup . Sorry about that. Beautiful stuff there.

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Finished up the bridge and am surprised how small it is. 5/16" by 1" by 6. Drilled 13/64" holes as discussed in GTT. Bridge pins are lose, not tight. 5% ebony pins. Guess they tighten up later down the line. Today I will locate bridge and then begin final FP finish and neck finish.

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Soon to be assembled
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