Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Questions about tools and jigs you want to buy/build/modify.
Andy Bounsall
Posts: 86
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:29 pm
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Contact:

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Andy Bounsall »

I use a Ryobi 16/32 as well. Not too big, as Clay said, and it does a fine job. They haven't been made for some years but perhaps you can find a used one for a reasonable price.

Ed Minch
Posts: 32
Joined: Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:59 pm

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Ed Minch »

I have a high-end cabinet shop about 3 blocks from my house. He charges me $20 to put whatever I want through his machine, so I have the rosette installed when I bring down a guitar's worth of stuff. The machine has a 4 foot wide oscillating belt, 20 HP belt motor, a 3 HP feed motor, and it takes about 45 second to change belts. Pretty funny to watch ukulele sides going through this 7 foot tall monster at .055.

Ed

David King
Posts: 2678
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:01 pm
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by David King »

My biggest improvement to my drum sander was switching over to Mirka abranet sanding rolls. In the process I finally figured out how the paper hold-down clip was supposed to work on the left hand end of the drum. The narrower abranet doesn't line up with the right hand side clip so I just put a short strip of high tack double sided tape on the edge of the drum and then stretch the strip as tight as I can get it. I put a layer of the brown freezer/binding tape around the right end of the drum over the strip to hold it all in place. After the first couple of passes I peeled off the tape and retightened the strip as the loop backing has a tendency to compress a bit. There has been no stretch since and no need to clean the grit with the gum stick. I never get any scorching of maple and the abranet cuts much faster even in finder grits so less hand sanding or scraping after. Basically the screen allows air to flow through the grit and it stays much cooler.

User avatar
Barry Daniels
Posts: 2590
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:58 am
Location: The Woodlands, Texas

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Barry Daniels »

What grit Abranet do you recommend using, David?
MIMF Staff

Arnt Rian
Posts: 216
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:41 am
Location: Trondheim, Norway
Contact:

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Arnt Rian »

Thanks for the tip David, I'm going to give those a try. I have been using the Mirka Ceros sander with the Abranet pads for some years now, and it has made finish sanding so much easier.

David King
Posts: 2678
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:01 pm
Location: Portland, OR
Contact:

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by David King »

I used 120 and it's been a reasonable compromise between speed and smoothness. The grit in the abranet seem much more uniform than with traditional papers so less likely to leave random deep scratches. If I were hogging material off I'd start with 80 grit and switch to 180 to clean up. With my bandsaw set up I'm rarely taking off more than .005 per side which is 2-3 passes.

I'm not the first person to try this by any measure and when I first read about it the early adopters were leaving a 1/4" gap between wraps (Mirka only seems to come in 2-7/8") and simply cutting the wrap ends to the same angle as the 3" wide cloth.

You could also apply a full layer of PSA hook material to the drum and stick it down to that but that results in a much springier abrasive layer that will tend to round over edges.

User avatar
Barry Daniels
Posts: 2590
Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:58 am
Location: The Woodlands, Texas

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Barry Daniels »

Do you think leaving the 1/4" gap would be a problem? I read the thread about this over on the OLF and they jumped through all kind of hoops to deal with the width issue.
MIMF Staff

User avatar
Bryan Bear
Posts: 1240
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:05 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Bryan Bear »

I don't think a gap in the wrap would be an issue but I confess I don't understand why they are leaving a gap. Is it because the roll is not long enough otherwise? I don't see why the width would matter. If you cut the angle such that the cut is the same length as the drum circumference, you should be able to wrap any width without leaving a gap.
PMoMC

Take care of your feet and your feet will take care of you.

Clay Schaeffer
Posts: 1478
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:04 pm

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Clay Schaeffer »

Hi Bryan,
I think the problem was that to fully wrap the drum the end of the strip didn't line up with the slot for securing the strip.

User avatar
Bryan Bear
Posts: 1240
Joined: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:05 pm
Location: St. Louis, MO

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Bryan Bear »

That makes sense. I didn’t think about that because I just use tape on my shop made sander.
PMoMC

Take care of your feet and your feet will take care of you.

Matthew Lau
Posts: 488
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:03 am

Re: Thickness sander-- build or buy?

Post by Matthew Lau »

Bob Hammond wrote:Hmm, weren't you the guy who was wondering if it would be possible to build without a shop? These machines do take up space. Where would you use it and store it?

I actually have a limited power tool workshop.
It's just that I only get a handful of hours in it a month.

Most of the time is work and preparing for work.

Post Reply