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Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Joel Nowland » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:40 am

Has anyone used Eastern Black, Claro or English Walnut for acoustic necks? If so what's your opinion?

I have used Honduras Mahogany, African Mahogany, Sapele, Maple, Cherry, Port Orford Cedar and Zebra but not Walnut.

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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Bob Gramann » Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:53 am

I've made several with black walnut necks. It works fine as a neck and carves easily. I'm careful to pick a piece with straight grain. I made one neck with walnut from a smaller tree where there were some curves in the grain line. I replaced that neck--it was pretty sensitive to the seasons.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Bryan Bear » Fri Sep 04, 2015 11:33 am

I also have used black walnut. Both necks are doing great. If you like the other woods you have used, you'll like walnut.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Clay Schaeffer » Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:55 pm

I've used eastern black walnut for necks. Mills and finishes very nicely.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Alan Carruth » Fri Sep 04, 2015 1:55 pm

Straight grained walnut makes a great neck. I gave in to the temptation to use some curly walnut on a 12 string neck a while ago, and it definitely lacks the requisite stiffness.

I cut up some 'go bars' of walnut and mahogany several years ago, and stuck them in a corner for a while to see how much they would creep. The walnut actually took less of a 'set' than the mahogany.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Mark Swanson » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:57 pm

Another YES vote for walnut. I have used it a lot, it makes a great neck.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Bill Raymond » Fri Sep 04, 2015 4:19 pm

I've used both Black Walnut and English Walnut. They work very nicely as necks.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Dan Smith » Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:54 pm

I've used it on electrics.
Really pretty and nice to work with.

It does add some weight that you may want to consider.

I was shocked at the price of a board I bought recently, that stuff's high-dollar.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Alan Carruth » Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:59 pm

I was at my local hardwood yard last week, and they had several notices up about the high price of walnut. They also had a couple of pages from trade journals with stories about it on the counter. It seems that the Chinese have picked up on it in a big way, and are buying walnut as fast as they can get it. One journal article said that the price was at an historic high, and was probably unsustainable in the long term, so they were predicting that it would come down. I'll believe that when I see it.

The odd thing was that there was more nice, quartered walnut out in the stacks than I can remember seeing in a long time. I used to search for hours to find a decent board, but that time I saw a dozen. I did get one piece that I just couldn't pass up, a two footer of 6/4 that's just right for making a two-piece neck. It was in the 'shorts' bin, and so discounted. Even so, it was expensive.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Mario Proulx » Sat Sep 05, 2015 11:00 pm

yes
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Waddy Thomson » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:36 am

Good stuff! Looks good too.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Bryan Bear » Sun Sep 06, 2015 4:01 pm

Yikes! I love walnut but I haven't had to buy any recently. I don't like hearing that the price is rising or that it is the new rage in Asia. I liked having an abundance of it and a maintainable demand for it. Not to mention the thousand cancers disease threatening eastern black walnut. I know it could be a very long time before that has a huge impact on availability but I have to imagine moving even more logs with bark to prepare for overseas shipment won't help.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Jason Rodgers » Mon Sep 07, 2015 12:54 am

Geez, I'm glad for the small stash I have, then. And I'll be coming into a bit more soon, too, as a coworker said she found a large piece in her shed (was left years ago by the previous owner) that she is cleaning out. Walnut is great, and though I've not used it for necks, I would not hesitate.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Dan Smith » Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:50 pm

I'm doing a Walnut Tele now.
The neck has a nice curly figure that should look swell when finished.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Jason Rodgers » Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:15 pm

Dan Smith wrote:I'm doing a Walnut Tele now.
The neck has a nice curly figure that should look swell when finished.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Ryan Mazzocco » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:33 am

yeah, I'm going to jump on here too.
E. Black Walnut is my favorite. I love it.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Alan Carruth » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:05 pm

Dan Smith wrote:
"The neck has a nice curly figure that should look swell when finished."

I used some nice curly walnut a few years back for a 12-string neck; big mistake. Curly wood is less stiff then straight grained stock, and this neck pulled up more than it should have. I had top cook off the fingerboard and re-work the truss rod setup, adding some CF stiffeners and swapping out an aluminum channel rode for one with a steel channel. Now it's stiff enough - just. Give some serious thought reinforcing that long skinny neck BEFORE you go too much further.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Bryan Bear » Tue Sep 08, 2015 1:48 pm

I love this place! I never really thought about curly wood being less stiff (or at least not enough less to be a concern). I like the look of curly necks but have only done one and it was maple on a short mando neck. I could easily have pressed on with a long curly neck project and never thought twice.

I can really only remember seeing curly necks made from maple (most often) and mahogany (I've been temped by some nice blanks at Hibdon). Are those woods generally stiff enough that the curly grain is not a hindrance and your caution is directed at walnut, or are those makers who are using curly woods making adjustments and I was just ignorant to the concern?
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Mark Swanson » Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:55 pm

Curly maple makes a great neck, but there are problems at times. They come not from it being weak, but from it being a bit unstable. It's strong enough but can be unpredictable. After shaping, it can simply move on you.
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Re: Walnut Acoustic Neck

Postby Dan Smith » Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:07 pm

Well, so far the neck seems very stiff.
I'll check it as I carve it down.
Just received this Walnut and Maple from Goby in Oregon.
I was going to take some time off of building, but I got withdrawal symptoms.
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