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Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:38 pm
by Al Dodson
I am wondering if anyone here builds spinets. I have access to a great deal of information including the string length measurements of 10-12 spinets and can obtain other measurements for at least six of them including one American made example.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:39 am
by Charlie Schultz
Spinet seems to be somewhat generic, at least to me. Do you mean with plucked strings (like a harpsichord) or hammered strings (like a piano) or something else?

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:34 pm
by Al Dodson
Hi Charlie,I,m talking about the traditional bent side spinet having plucked strings like a harpsichord. There is one instrument from 1779 that is hammered like a piano.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:20 am
by Charlie Schultz
Nice, I was hoping that was what you meant. I'd be interested in any measurements you can take, thanks.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 2:11 pm
by Matthew Lau
You may want to contact John from John Phillips Harpsichord.
He makes Harsichords, Clavichords, and Spinets professionally.
He's also a really nice guy.
I'll be visiting his neighbor tomorrow, and maybe dropping off some beers.

http://www.jph.us/

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:55 pm
by Bill Raymond
Anyone interested in making a spinet should check out the late John Barnes' little book "Making a Spinet by Traditional Methods". It's not expensive, and is available from John's son, Peter Barnes at www.peterbarnesharpsichords.com and from other sources.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 9:04 am
by Charlie Schultz
Thanks for the info.

I ordered the book from Amazon and got the 2015 revision. The 1998 revision of the book is online here: http://www.peterbarnesharpsichords.com/ ... spinet.pdf.

The full size drawing is available from a shop in Germany (http://www.vogel-scheer.de) for 98 Euros (+34 EU for shipping).

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:56 pm
by Bill Raymond
Charlie, have you compared the 2 editions? If so, what revisions have been made?

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:36 am
by Charlie Schultz
Hi Bill,
They seem pretty close- the table of contents is the same, page numbers all match. The illustrations look to be the same. The new book has 8 or so b&w detail photographs of the original instrument in the back. Also it looks like some drawings used to be available directly from John Barnes.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:16 pm
by Bill Raymond
Thanks Charlie.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:18 am
by Charlie Schultz
I received the "full-size" plans yesterday and am a little disappointed. For 98 Euros (110 USD) I kind of expected them to be on mylar or good quality bond paper, but they appear to be plotted on normal paper. Per the printed scale, it seems to be around 3/4" off length-wise and unfortunately only a few of the small pieces are dimensioned. On the plus side, there is a good amount of detail on the drawing.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:37 am
by Bill Raymond
Charlie, You may want to consider joining the University of Iowa HPSCHD-L list at http://list.uiowa.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=HPSCHD-L. They also have a Facebook page that can be subscribed to by list members. Expert harpsichord/clavichord/fortepiano makers and players contribute to the list and can answer any questions you might have along the way.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:14 pm
by Charlie Schultz
Good idea, thanks Bill. I used to belong to that list > 10 years ago and got turned off by some derisive members. I'll give it another go.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2016 4:21 pm
by Bill Raymond
Charlie, the list is pretty well tamed now. There was a character who used to post inappropriate comments and profanity, but he was banned by the moderator who does try to keep things civil. That character used to post odd pseudo-philosophical ramblings, too under pseudonyms; possibly had some psychological problems. He's now back, but seems to be behaving himself. The Facebook page features photos that were otherwise not able to be posted on the list itself. I'm not sure I'll ever build a harpsichord myself, though I have the start of one given to me by a friend who wasn't able to complete it (in the mid-1960s!), but it's always good to see how others approach building instruments as there is always something transferrable to guitar making or other woodworking.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 7:40 pm
by Nic Hambas
A year or ten ago, I began researching the idea of building a spinet. My research led me to draw my own plans for an Italian square spinet, rather than the odd-looking English one. That work left me happy but exhausted. So I went back to building bowed dulcimers for a quick fix. Eventually, I got around to building the trickiest part of the spinet, the jack box. And that's where I'm standing now. I saw this posting almost by accident and got the urge to finish what I started. By the way, John Barnes' website makes no mention of any book or other printed material on the subject. Apparently, it's out of print again.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:54 pm
by Bill Raymond
Although Peter Barnes' website doesn't mention plans or book, I believe if you contact him by email he can supply you with either. I bought the book from him, but had to email him to ask whether it was available from him. I don't know why he doesn't put it on his site.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:17 am
by Charlie Schultz
I just got the book(let) from Amazon a couple months ago, see this post: http://www.mimf.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php ... 601#p45071

For my build in progress (though progress has slowed as of late), see this thread: http://www.mimf.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=4681

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Sun May 10, 2020 11:44 am
by Al Dodson
Must have dozed off there for a minute. Great to see Bill Raymond here; its been a long time. Lets see if I can remember how to post.

The first on is "The 1668 Hayward," probably the first English spinet.

My files are in Excel. I cant seem to figure out how to post them. I can print and photograph them but it would be much more useful as a spreadsheet.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:07 pm
by Charlie Schultz
Hi Al,
You should (now) be able to post Excel files. Look for the "Attachment" tab at the bottom of the reply screen (just below the "Save draft"/"Preview"/"Submit" buttons). Click "Add files", select your file and then "Place inline" to actually put it in the post.

Re: Anyone Building Spinets

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 9:17 pm
by Clay Schaeffer
Hi Al,
Good to see you're back. I always enjoyed reading your posts.