A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby John Sonksen » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:45 pm

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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby David King » Fri Dec 06, 2013 6:54 pm

Very nice looking instrument. I bet it almost fits in a guitar case too. Lining up those string locking setscrew holes through the side side of the headstock must have been a trick in and of itself.
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Mark Swanson » Fri Dec 06, 2013 9:23 pm

I'll be the first (and not the last) to say Wow!
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Jason Rodgers » Sat Dec 07, 2013 12:12 am

Aha! NOW I understand the little headstock string locking thingies. I couldn't make sense of the different diameters at the top and bottom of the shafts: the hole is stepped so the wider diameter is on the back so the strings don't pull em right out of the headstock.

This thing is so wicked clean that it's amazing it wasn't made with CNC. Blows my mind, every inch.
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Hans Bezemer » Sat Dec 07, 2013 3:55 am

+1 for Mark's Wow!
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Steve Senseney » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:20 am

Nice work and Nice pictures!
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Ant Setchell » Sat Dec 07, 2013 2:24 pm

Bravo David, that is absolutely stunning, and beautifully documented throughout.
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Dave Higham » Sat Dec 07, 2013 5:08 pm

Thank you one and all for your kind words. Very much appreciated.
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Marc Jennings » Mon Dec 09, 2013 7:34 am

Fantastic, Dave. I've followed this thread for a while now, and I am incredibly impressed. I guess the question is "when are you starting to take on commissioned work?" ;)
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Henrique Schneiter » Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:30 pm

That is outstanding! Both the instrument and the craftsmanship!
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Keith VanDen Heuvel » Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:07 pm

I will echo what everybody has already said here and offer my compliments on a really fantastic instrument. Following the build process has been a treat and educational as well. Outstanding!
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Re: A 5-String Multiscale ‘Headless’ DIY Bass

Postby Jason Rodgers » Sun Aug 21, 2016 12:50 am

Dave Higham wrote:Now I cut the slots for the carbon fibre stiffening bars on the ‘router table’ in the same way as the truss-rod slot. The bars are1/8” wide and ½” deep and are partially let into the fingerboard as well as the neck. As the neck is mostly light weight mahogany, I thought it might be a good idea to stiffen it as much as possible, hence the ½” deep CF. I’ve used 1/8” x 3/8” CF in the past but two ½” deep bars are 2.37 times more resistant to bending than two 3/8” bars. I stuck the fingerboard blank to a piece of plywood exactly the same width as the neck blank, using double sided tape. This ensured that the slots in the fingerboard matched those in the neck blank exactly. Here the slots have been cut and one of the CF bars is in place being marked for cutting off the surplus.

Here are both bars, trimmed and in place. I cut and shaped the ends of the bars using hacksaw and files. I try to minimise the amount of CF dust floating around.

You may have noticed that the line where the face of the headstock intersects with the face of the neck is at right angles to the neck’s centre-line and not parallel to the nut. That’s because I didn’t skew the headstock as most people do on multi-scale sloped headstocks. There’s another way of dealing with the problem. First I cut a piece of the surplus which was cut off the other end of the neck blank.

This was then glued onto the surface of the neck, overlapping slightly the neck/headstock intersection and the nut position.

I then planed it down flush with the surface of the headstock. This photo might be slightly confusing as it’s taken from the other side to try to show the result more clearly. The difference between this method and the skewed headstock is that the surface of the headstock veneer will be closer to the top of the nut on the treble side than on the bass side, but it shouldn’t be close enough to cause a problem (I hope; I’ve never done it before.)

I just rediscovered this awesome thread, and at the perfect moment. On my multi-scale guitars, the headstock transition/attachment solution has been keeping me up. I posted here viewtopic.php?f=12&t=4358 about trying to devise a tricky headstock attached with a dovetail, but I've decided to abandon the idea. (In the interim, I've also mocked up a Fender-style, one-piece, stepped headstock, but I didn't like the look or the issue with break angle.) Dave, I think your stacked scarf with the tiny extra wedge may be the solution.
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