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L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 12:17 pm
by Bob Howell
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I followed the discussion on the plans Eric started last spring and printed them out. Choose the L-00 for some reason.
Moved the sound hole and x bracing up 1/2" to accomidate sh placement on sound board. Later saw series of YouTube videos on bracing and learned that might be a big change.

I used tendilions construction, as I enjoy it. Worked smoothly.

Then carved off the overhang.

Macacauba and curly Sitka spruce.
This is my 3rd build.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:51 pm
by Bryan Bear
Looking good. I love the L-00 shape. Keep updating with your progress so we can see it all finished!

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:33 am
by Bill Raymond
I believe you mean "tentallones".

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:21 am
by Bob Howell
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Thanks for spelling. Here is sound hole and top.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:23 pm
by Bob Francis
that is looking nice!

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:42 pm
by Patrick DeGreve
Hi Bob, I built a L00 from the Grellier plans about 5 years ago. I live it. Yours is looking great. please keep posting your progress.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:52 pm
by Bob Howell
I've installed the bindings and perfling. I made them both and cut off with 1/16" Cerf table saw blade

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:37 pm
by Bryan Bear
Looking good, nice progress. It is hard to tell form the picture, what kind of top purfling are you using?

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:18 pm
by Bob Howell
I made one from a bunch of maple sliced off about 1/16-1/8 and various shades of brown, walnut, canary wood, santos rose wood and cherry veneer. Repeat every 2". Sliced off 1/32" with bs and glued up between VERY thin mahogany veneer, dyed black. Square, not angled. Worked out to be 5/64" wide. I have done several of these and am amazed what I can do successfully.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:58 am
by Bob Howell
Here are some of the perfling and materials I used to make them
Next sound board is shown. Another l-00.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:01 am
by Jason Rodgers
Looking good! That back and side wood is going to be beautiful under finish. Please give some closeups of your rosette and binding/perf scheme.

Back to your original post: why was it you shifted the soundhole and bracing? Will you do the same on the next, or follow the plans directly?

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 9:31 am
by Eric Knapp
This is looking really nice and is inspiring me to get back on my OM. I stopped working on it during the school year as this is a hard one for me. The good news is I will be retiring in May. I’m looking forward to my new life with more shop time.

Thanks,

-Eric

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:59 pm
by Bob Howell
Here are more pictures. The bindings are cherry and neck will be also. The rosette is Cherry, maple, walnut, manzetta burls with holly, cherry, and black veneer mixed in. I went for random arrangement rather than symmetry.
Back strip is More of same sandwich cut 1/8" thick with cocobolo block and same veneers. Lots of cleanup remaining. Several binding repairs to make. Used HHG and have little model airplane covering iron to heat and fix.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 10:11 pm
by Bob Howell
I had installed the rosette located according to another set of plans, but when I traced out the location of the bracing I realized the sound hole must be 1/2" closer to neck. I think I moved the x brace 1/4" also and made it a 90 degree joint. Saw a youtube short that said that moving x brace 1/2" is BIG deal??? I don't know.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 7:18 am
by Beate Ritzert
Wow. She's going to become really pretty.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:40 am
by Bryan Bear
I like that back strap!

Moving the X or changing the angel can be a big deal inasmuch as it will alter the tone, but it will still sound like a guitar (just a different guitar than it would if you hadn't made the change). As long as the lower legs of the X catch the bridge, you should be fine structurally. You'll have to make some more guitars before you can start to know how bracing changes will shape your tone.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:35 pm
by Bob Howell
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Two shots of another L-00; this one all curly maple and Sitka. I have collected a lot of figured maple over the years and last week I cut out 5-6 sets and have more to go.

This one will be naturel white. Seems a lot of trouble to dye back and /or sides without the perfling. In the past I have used tung oil thinned down to bring out the grain with out darkening maple. Now I'm wondering if wipe-on Polly from Minwax will work as well. Save buying another can.

What string weight are good with this design? The top is 3/32" most places but drops down to almost 1/16" in two places at the lower bout bottom edge.

Note the back stripe of blood wood and black/white. Saw this on Hanns Binurip's site and adapted it. He mentions old "Larson" model as his inspiration. I plan to use it in perfling also.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:51 pm
by Bob Howell
I slaughtered Haans name; its Haans Brentrup . Sorry about that. Beautiful stuff there.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 4:24 am
by Bob Howell
Finished up the bridge and am surprised how small it is. 5/16" by 1" by 6. Drilled 13/64" holes as discussed in GTT. Bridge pins are lose, not tight. 5% ebony pins. Guess they tighten up later down the line. Today I will locate bridge and then begin final FP finish and neck finish.

Re: L-00 from Grellier's plans

PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2018 12:23 pm
by Bob Howell
Soon to be assembled
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