Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

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Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Jim Bonnell » Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:31 pm

I just finished up a mahogany neck for an electric guitar and it's too light in color for my taste. I've tried a variety of brown Transtint colors mixed in alcohol on scrap but haven't found anything I like yet. Does anyone have a color of dye they've used on mahogany that worked well. I know this is pretty subjective but I'm just looking for suggestions. Also any tips on dealing with end grain so it doesn't get too dark.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Brian Evans » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:32 am

I treat end grain by sealing the wood completely, maybe with shellac, so that you are tinting the finish, not the wood. Another way is to spray three coats of your finish, let dry, then spray colour. When I went for a dark mahogany colour I used an alcohol based leather dye in shellac once, or you could add red and black to your brown transtint dye. Also remember that you can use several coats of most finishes to build up the depth of colour you want.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Clay Schaeffer » Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:48 am

If you do a wash coat of shellac it should fill the end grain but will still take an alcohol based dye. I like the Mohawk ultra penetrating stains. They can be mixed with water, alcohol, lacquer and just about any other solvent. You can mix them to get the color you want.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Mario Proulx » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:29 pm

Seal with thin shellac, then add the transtints to the shellac(not to alcohol, which is too thin..), and apply either by spraying or rubbing on with paper towel or a small rag. Build color until satisfied...
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Mario Proulx » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:31 pm

Burnt umber works well, BTW...
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Clay Schaeffer » Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:50 pm

The ultra penetrating stain is a dye stain that can be used straight out of the bottle or diluted with just about anything. With a shellac wash (sealer) coat I would use alcohol as the diluent.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Jim Bonnell » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:30 pm

Thanks for all the great tips. Mario, any suggestions for mixing burnt umber? I'm not sure what colors of tint to mix to get it.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Mario Proulx » Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:40 pm

Grab the bottle labeled "burnt umber" and squeeze out a few drops....? ;)
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Peter Wilcox » Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:30 am

Or take some raw umber and heat it to 425 degrees in the oven for 2 hours. :)

It looks like you can make it to your taste using red, blue and black: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-MFkNavUu4

Transtint has the appropriate colors, but it might be a little pricey if you have to buy several just for this.
http://homesteadfinishingproducts.com/w ... t_2018.pdf

Alternatively, you could buy a tube of burnt umber watercolor paint (if you feel burnt umber is the appropriate color you want), dilute it as needed with water and wipe it on the neck.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Mark Swanson » Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:42 am

Hi Jim! it's good to see you posting and hope all is well.
I agree with the comments here, that works great.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Jim Bonnell » Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:03 am

Hi Mark, good to be back. I drop in and look every once in awhile but just haven't posted anything. The reason I ask about mixing is because I was unable to find a burnt umber dye and assumed you had mixed it from Transtint or other brand colors. Thanks everyone for your help.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Mark Swanson » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:19 pm

I haven't done it. I haven't found a need to die a mahogany neck, but if I did I think I'd just use some dark shellac base coats.
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Re: Looking for tips on dying a mahogany neck

Postby Ed Minch » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:37 am

Here are TransTint colors red and medium brown dissolved in water on Honduras Mahogany. The red is pretty dilute, but the brown less so. Click forward a few shots to see the finished product:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ruby1638/9971987483/in/album-72157635130471994/

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