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Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:57 am
by Martin Taylor
I thought I'd post up some pictures of my Fretboard shaping jig. I generally use Mulga or Gidgee for my fretboards. Both are very hard, fine grained timbers that finish beautifully but if you have ever had to use a sanding beam to get the shape you know how time consuming that is!

I didn't invent this concept but I love it so much I had to share it.

The jig was made mainly with scrap from around the workshop with a couple of pieces of PVC pipe and the Aluminium side supports costing about $10 from the hardware.

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This is the set up for the 12 inch radius

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And if I want to do a 10" radius I just have to make a new box with the 10" radius on the bottom and raise one of the risers.

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Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:41 am
by Greg Robinson
Nice jig Martin.
Just by the way, in your diagrams, the router bit protrudes below the radius guide, so you will get a radius tighter by however far it protrudes: e.g. if it protrudes 1/4" below, and you use a 10" guides, you will get a 9-3/4" radius on the board. You probably realise this, but I thought it worth mentioning.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:56 am
by Martin Taylor
Well spotted Greg. The drawing isn't that accurate and my router bit is closer to the curve. If I make any more boxes, I'll certainly allow for the router bit depth. Thanks

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:59 pm
by Greg Steil
This is so cool! AND one of the best parts about this page. The sharing of neat ideas. I only build flat fingerboards, but I want to build one of these.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:38 pm
by Clay Schaeffer
Hi Martin,
I love the simplicity of the design. And I think I have enough "scroungings" to put one together for free. Thanks for showing this.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:38 pm
by Mark Swanson
I have been doing my fingerboards that way for quite some time now. I saw the design a long time ago when someone posted it here, I'm surprised you didn't see it then Clay! You've been around here for years too!

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:59 pm
by John Sonksen
so are the pvc pipes attached or just loose between the angle aluminum and the wood strip so they roll as you move the jig?

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:16 pm
by Martin Taylor
John Sonksen wrote:so are the pvc pipes attached or just loose between the angle aluminum and the wood strip so they roll as you move the jig?
Hi John,

The PVC pipes are screwed in place into the timber base and also bolted to the aluminium strips. The wood strips help hold the pvc too. I found that the pvc needs to be as stable as possible. The radiused box slides on the PVC really well.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:37 pm
by John Sonksen
Martin Taylor wrote:
John Sonksen wrote:so are the pvc pipes attached or just loose between the angle aluminum and the wood strip so they roll as you move the jig?
Hi John,

The PVC pipes are screwed in place into the timber base and also bolted to the aluminium strips. The wood strips help hold the pvc too. I found that the pvc needs to be as stable as possible. The radiused box slides on the PVC really well.
Okay that makes more sense. I was thinking pvc pipes wouldn't roll that well since they usually aren't very straight. Looks like a pretty simple way to make a precision rig!

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:57 pm
by Gordon Bellerose
Yeah. I have been sanding the radius into my fretboards, and it is indeed tedious work.
I think I might be building one of these myself.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 10:28 pm
by Art Davila
Greg Robinson wrote:Nice jig Martin.
Just by the way, in your diagrams, the router bit protrudes below the radius guide, so you will get a radius tighter by however far it protrudes: e.g. if it protrudes 1/4" below, and you use a 10" guides, you will get a 9-3/4" radius on the board. You probably realise this, but I thought it worth mentioning.
So to label the templates correctly would one always just deduct a 1/4 inch from a scribed template?

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:07 am
by Mike Trobaugh
Greg Robinson wrote:Nice jig Martin.
Just by the way, in your diagrams, the router bit protrudes below the radius guide, so you will get a radius tighter by however far it protrudes: e.g. if it protrudes 1/4" below, and you use a 10" guides, you will get a 9-3/4" radius on the board. You probably realise this, but I thought it worth mentioning.
I think there is some bad math going on.
The cutting face of the bit will run parallel to the radius of the jig giving a radius equal to the jig
Nice Jig,i plan on building one as soon as ol man winter releases his grip.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:21 pm
by Barry Daniels
I used metal electrical conduit instead of PVC which is a bit more stable and durable.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:56 am
by Eric Baack
Mikie wrote:
Greg Robinson wrote:Nice jig Martin.
Just by the way, in your diagrams, the router bit protrudes below the radius guide, so you will get a radius tighter by however far it protrudes: e.g. if it protrudes 1/4" below, and you use a 10" guides, you will get a 9-3/4" radius on the board. You probably realise this, but I thought it worth mentioning.
I think there is some bad math going on.
The cutting face of the bit will run parallel to the radius of the jig giving a radius equal to the jig
Nice Jig,i plan on building one as soon as ol man winter releases his grip.
Sorry, that isn't correct, it is running concentric to the jig but a bit inside of it, so if it is offset by 1/4" inside of the radius, then it is 1/4" less

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:07 am
by Barry Daniels
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Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:13 am
by Andy Birko
Speaking of math, something that I find very confusing is how a long compass and a contraption like this can yield the same results.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:55 am
by Jason Rodgers
Right, Andy. The long compass is just plain cool, old-school math. As a matter of fact, straight long compass rails would be just as effective on this jig, AND they could be made adjustable to quickly dial in any fretboard radius.

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 6:31 pm
by Mike Trobaugh
Well,here is my version of the jig
When I get the rail jig done and test drive it ill post the results
The radius on this one is 12"

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Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 3:05 pm
by Mike Trobaugh
Here are pics of the entire jig
along with a scrap sample I did to see what radius it cuts
This jig cuts the same radius that is made on the router jig
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The router bit is running parallel to the router jig
The center point of the radius of the cutter is proportionally longer than the center point of the router jig making a parallel cut

Re: Fretboard shaping jig

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:19 am
by Barry Daniels
How rigid are those plastic arcs?